Heart Talk: Parts 3 and 4

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This will be an informal, deeper introduction to just who I am, AND just what makes me tick…and, NO, it’s not bomb. Part 3 will be my testimony of B.C. and A.D., but with an emphasis not so much on the SYMPTOMS of my sinful, wretched state B.C., nor on my symptomatic struggles since coming to KNOW The Lord Jesus Christ as my personal Lord AND Saviour. Btw, the saints in the New Testament, as recorded in The Book of Acts, called Jesus LORD 111 times- Savior only twice…look at what they DID for THE Lord… Part 4 will be a revealing of my HEART on the most misunderstood, and most attacked doctrine of The Bible, with exception of The Doctrine of God, Creation, and The Trinity…BUT this doctrine’s misunderstanding and misapplication has ALLOWED all other HERESY and all other IMMORALITY to go and spread unchecked…FIRST, My Testimony:

Part 3: What Jesus REALLY Means To Me.

Basic Intro.

Born: July 17, 1959. Independence Hospital, Independence, Mo.

Oldest of 5 kids born to Lee Coolidge and Janice Marie Wallenmeyer; my dad was a Pastor and Associational Missionary for The Southern Baptists. Have 3 brothers  (David, Danny, Michael), the youngest my only sister Jana.

Was Born-Again and called into the Ministry August 14th, 1976

Graduated HS in 1977…finally. (UGH!!)

Graduated From Christ Unlimited Bible Institute: 1981; attended 2 other Bible colleges, Hannibal-La Grange (77-79), Berean Bible Institute (76-83). Majored in Bible Doctrine. Minored in Bible History and Prophesy.

The Heart Of My Testimony.

Let me get the symptoms out of the way:

At age 9 began to get really into rock music, and the spirit behind it. I started smoking at age 11 (4 pack a day habit, stole 99% of the cigarettes/cigars I smoked), cursed profusely, was a vandal, thief, and B&E (breaking and Entering), drank hard liquor, daily into fights…

Those were the FRUIT, so to speak, of my sinful life. The ROOT, the HEART, of my rebellion against God was due to us moving a LOT. Tired of being the new kid on the block. Tired of having to start all over. Tired of leaving my friends and never seeing them again. Tired of having to start all over and make new friends again. At an early age my resentment of moving then became a resentment of my parents, particularly my dad, and by extension a resentment of Church, Christianity, and then, finally, of God Himself.

When I was 3 we moved from Independence, Mo. to Edina, Mo., and by age 5 to Memphis, Mo. . During this time my father was an Associational Missionary for The Southern Baptists and we were at different churches, different towns all the time.

It seemed that the churches my dad worked with were troubled churches, mainly rampant hypocrisy and immorality, this, along with two other factors leads to the doctrine that I adhere to closely, that causes many, even Christians and other ministers, to become squeamish, more on that later.

At age 9 we moved to Hannibal, Mo. where my dad took the pastorate at Antioch Baptist Church. THIS is where my already fomenting resentment fired up into hate-fueled rebellion.

Antioch Baptist Church was rife with adultery, fornication, gossip, back-stabbing, lying, drunkenness, and rampant hypocrisy from the deacons, teachers, choir director…on down. My dad was a simple country preacher. He preached and taught God’s Word in simple black-and-white terms: Heaven was real, Hell was hot, Jesus IS THE ONLY means of Salvation (NO man, past, present, or future is needed, NONE can help do what ONLY Jesus can do), The Bible IS God’s Holy, Infallible, Immutable, Eternal Word, and Christians should pattern their lives after The Lord Jesus Christ…that did not set well with parishioners that wanted to hear comfortable, soothing messages and be left alone in their sin.

By age 11 I truly hated Church, Christians, and Christianity…there was one more thing to happen that would then focus all my resentment, rage and hate…on God…

The Icy Hill To Hell.

In the winter of  1970 I was walking up a very slippery, icy hill in back of our house. I kept falling…and cursing a blue streak. After several attempts to get up that hill and falling I tried to “strike a deal” with God. I told God if HE would help me up the hill I’d serve HIM the rest of my life. I fell again.

I had already been cursing, but what followed next was the blackest, vilest profanity on the blackest, vilest act of the blackest and vilest day of my life.

I cursed God. I turned and focused all my pent up resentment, rage and hate directly at and on God. I cursed HIM with every ounce of hate and profanity I could muster. I told God that I hated HIM, hated Jesus, hated church, hated Christians, hated Christianity, hated my parents, and then told GOD to go to Hell…I never wanted anything to do with HIM ever again. I’m crying as I type this. God was and is sooooo merciful and gracious to me, to all of us…I was so eaten up with bitterness, resentment, and hate that I unleashed on the ONLY source of true, unconditional love, Agape love, that exists, God.

From that point til age 17 I became daily hardened in my hate and rebellion. I got a Satanic Bible (Anton Lavey) and several other occultic books and became immersed in my hate-fired rebellion.

We had moved to Needles, California in my 10th grade year. I hated it. Lost all my friends again.

My parents said IF I saved up the money I could go back to Hannibal and visit my best friend, Mike Glascock, between my junior and senior year  of HS.

My intentions? My plans?

To get back at all the people that had so hurt my dad and mom, me, and the rest of us. They were going to pay. I had arson and murder in my heart…



BUT GOD had other plans.

I arrived “back home” in early August of 1976.

My best friend, who I thought was as big a doper and trouble-maker as me had given his heart to The Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ sometime in May at a Pentecostal tent Revival. He didn’t say “Boo” to me about it though. God knew I’d NOT go if I knew he had become a Christian.

I get off the train. 2 days of 4 packs a day cigarette smoke on me. We hug. say our hellos…and then Mike says this:

“We’re going to revival tonight.”


I hadn’t come almost 1,200 miles to go to no church!

BUT GOD…. God had other plans.

That night under the revival tent, a Baptist boy sat in the back row with his best friend. And The Holy Spirit really began to dig down deep into my heart, my soul, and my spirit. I was seeing and hearing things I never saw or heard before…genuine love, praise and worship for The Lord Jesus Christ.

At about 10:00 to 10:30 pm, August 14th, 1976 the war between me and The Lord God ended with my unconditional surrender to HIM. And The Lord God flooded me with a peace I never imagined existed. I was now a Born-Again Christian.

Besides getting side-tracked into a small, local movement/cult for about 14 months early in my Christian walk, which God graciously brought me out of and showed me the Truth on the matter, I have given myself to prayer and the prayerful study of God’s Word.

By studying “The Original”, God’s Word, I am no longer swayed by every wind of doctrine.

Now, NOT everything has been “peaches-n-cream” since I gave my heart to The Lord Jesus Christ…BUT my hard times are BETTER with The Lord than my so-called good times were WITHOUT The Lord! Because NOW whatever I face I face WITH HIM.

Am I were I want to be in The Lord yet? Yes and no.

Yes. I’m saved and growing in God’s grace and knowledge, II Peter 3:18.

No, I still NEED to be more like Christ daily.

Am I perfect?

Are you kidding?? No. But thank God, I serve a perfect, holy, righteous, loving, gracious, merciful, just, and FAITHFUL GOD!



IF you skipped Part 3 to get down here to read “What controversial doctrine is the Rev. talking about?”, IF you did THAT then you will have a hard time understanding why I dug into The Bible to find out what GOD REALLY SAYS…about judging.

Lost 50%-90% right there.


Those still reading HERE is what The Bible REALLY teaches about judging, THEN we’ll look at the most often used, and most often misunderstood Scripture passage in The Bible. THIS has been a deliberated attack on God, God’s Word, and on God’s people going back at least to the 1950’s.



I will post entire Scripture passages to show what GOD really says. Let us begin.

Can we all agree that in The Bible there is NO higher authority than God/Jesus/The Holy Spirit?

IF YOU agree on that then let’s begin here:

John 7:24 King James Version (KJV)

24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

This is The Lord Jesus Christ talking. HE speaks of TWO types of judging here. Superficial, hypocritical, and “righteous judging”.

The superficial/hypocritical Christ straitly forbids.

The Righteous judging HE commands.

Deuteronomy 1:12-18 King James Version (KJV)

12 How can I myself alone bear your cumbrance, and your burden, and your strife?

13 Take you wise men, and understanding, and known among your tribes, and I will make them rulers over you.

14 And ye answered me, and said, The thing which thou hast spoken is good for us to do.

15 So I took the chief of your tribes, wise men, and known, and made them heads over you, captains over thousands, and captains over hundreds, and captains over fifties, and captains over tens, and officers among your tribes.

16 And I charged your judges at that time, saying, Hear the causes between your brethren, and judge righteously between every man and his brother, and the stranger that is with him.

17 Ye shall not respect persons in judgment; but ye shall hear the small as well as the great; ye shall not be afraid of the face of man; for the judgment is God’s: and the cause that is too hard for you, bring it unto me, and I will hear it.

18 And I commanded you at that time all the things which ye should do.

Here God commands, sets in order, and details the way to judge, judge ONLY according to God’s Word/Law.

Exodus 18:13-23 King James Version (KJV)

13 And it came to pass on the morrow, that Moses sat to judge the people: and the people stood by Moses from the morning unto the evening.

14 And when Moses’ father in law saw all that he did to the people, he said, What is this thing that thou doest to the people? why sittest thou thyself alone, and all the people stand by thee from morning unto even?

15 And Moses said unto his father in law, Because the people come unto me to enquire of God:

16 When they have a matter, they come unto me; and I judge between one and another, and I do make them know the statutes of God, and his laws.

17 And Moses’ father in law said unto him, The thing that thou doest is not good.

18 Thou wilt surely wear away, both thou, and this people that is with thee: for this thing is too heavy for thee; thou art not able to perform it thyself alone.

19 Hearken now unto my voice, I will give thee counsel, and God shall be with thee: Be thou for the people to God-ward, that thou mayest bring the causes unto God:

20 And thou shalt teach them ordinances and laws, and shalt shew them the way wherein they must walk, and the work that they must do.

21 Moreover thou shalt provide out of all the people able men, such as fear God, men of truth, hating covetousness; and place such over them, to be rulers of thousands, and rulers of hundreds, rulers of fifties, and rulers of tens:

22 And let them judge the people at all seasons: and it shall be, that every great matter they shall bring unto thee, but every small matter they shall judge: so shall it be easier for thyself, and they shall bear the burden with thee.

23 If thou shalt do this thing, and God command thee so, then thou shalt be able to endure, and all this people shall also go to their place in peace.

Psalm 149:6-9 King James Version (KJV)

Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a two-edged sword in their hand;

To execute vengeance upon the heathen, and punishments upon the people;

To bind their kings with chains, and their nobles with fetters of iron;

To execute upon them the judgment written: this honour have all his saints. Praise ye the Lord.

Malachi 3:16-18 King James Version (KJV)

16 Then they that feared the Lord spake often one to another: and the Lord hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the Lord, and that thought upon his name.

17 And they shall be mine, saith the Lord of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.

18 Then shall ye return, and discern between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth God and him that serveth him not.

[NOTE: In the original Hebrew of the O.T. and Greek of the N.T. discern means: to judge correctly. THIS is very important later on as we’ll see.]

1 Corinthians 5 King James Version (KJV)

It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father’s wife.

And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you.

For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed,

In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,

To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

6 Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?

Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:

Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:

10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.

11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?

13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

[NOTE: God’s Word says Paul passed this judgment though NOT physically present. God’s Word IS Truth, IS Right, no matter the distance or location.]

1 Corinthians 6:1-10 King James Version (KJV)

Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?

Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?

Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.

I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?

But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers.

Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded?

Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren.

Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

1 Corinthians 12:7-11 King James Version (KJV)

But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.

For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;

To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;

10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:

11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.

[NOTE: Here is the word DISCERN again, as 1st seen in Malachi 3:16-18. One of the GIFTS of The Spirit is “discerning of/judging of spirits”. THIS will be seen as very vital later.]

1 Timothy 5:20 King James Version (KJV)

20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

2 Timothy 4:1-6 King James Version (KJV)

I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

For I am now ready to be offered, and the time of my departure is at hand.

Titus 1:8-16 King James Version (KJV)

But a lover of hospitality, a lover of good men, sober, just, holy, temperate;

Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.

10 For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision:

11 Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre’s sake.

12 One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, the Cretians are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies.

13 This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;

14 Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.

15 Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.

16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.

1 John 4:1-6 King James Version (KJV)

Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.

We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

[NOTE: From Malachi 3 to I Corinthians 12, now here in I John 4 we see the NEED of DISCERNING OF/judging of spirits, doctrine, truth, error, and right and wrong according TO God’s Word.]

Matthew 18:15-17 King James Version (KJV)

15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.

16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.

17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

[NOTE: This is Jesus talking again, the HIGHEST authority there is, and HE says HOW to execute judgment among the brethren in the church.]


Matthew 7:1-23 King James Version (KJV)

Judge not, that ye be not judged.

For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.

Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you…

…13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.


Many stop at verse one like that is all that The Lord Jesus Christ said.

BUT place that INTO the proper CONTEXT of the rest of the chapter, and indeed, The WHOLE BIBLE and you see Jesus Christ says in more detail in Matthew chpt. 7 what HE says in John 7:24. Jesus does NOT give a blanket prohibition of judging, BUT of superficial, hypocritical judging.

The Conclusion of the Whole Matter:

  5. And when God’s Word says something is right IT IS RIGHT regardless of who says otherwise.
  6. When God’s Word says something is wrong IT IS WRONG regardless of who says otherwise.
  7. Do NOT be shallow.
  8. Do NOT be hypocritical.
  9. Do NOT be hateful, hate-filled, NOR in anyway operate in hate.
  10. If you see a moral or doctrinal error PRAY FIRST. And ALWAYS respond IN and WITH LOVE, [Ephesians 4:15].

If you’re happy that someone failed so you can be the “Bible Cop”…then YOUR heart is not right. Pray. Repent. Get forgiveness. Get restoration.

Two things about Godly judgment:



You may be asking, “Why do you think this is so important, Rev. Larry?”

My answer…. think of the countless churches, homes, marriages, families, and lives that have been RUINED, some that went to Hell…because no one spoke God’s Word, The Truth, to them in love.

I hope this has been thorough enough. If the response demands it I will follow up….Scout’s Honor.


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-Rev. Larry Wallenmeyer.


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