The Three Things That, In All Likelihood WILL happen? 1. Trump will fully recover, yet lose the election BIGLY, will call out all The White Nationalists/Supremacist, Alt-Right, Fascists radicals to enact as close to Civil War II as they can muster, the economy which is bad will go belly up and die,
2. Trump will linger in the hospital til right at or AFTER the election, still lose, and never fully recover, or even die, causing the G.O.P. to try to elect Pence; violence, which has NOT abated since March, will spike from all realms of radical Leftists, and the economy which is on life-support will tank and die throwing the world wide open for which ever Tyrant- Putin or Hu- to step in and take-over,
3. Trump is LYING about all this because he does NOT believe he will win, and hopes with “the illness” and ensuing amped (WAY) violence and chaos to evade prison, and escape to a Trump-friendly nation.
[NOTE: This IS a long read. Either set aside or make time to read it in one setting, or read it in separate settings. I include facts and evidence, per usual, from a plethora of sources, on a plethora of related and tangent issues. This is necessary because so much IS transpiring at once, and right before an election. You may wish to keep this so you can have the info and facts to fall back on when questioned about this.]
WHAT FOLKS ARE SAYING: HEADLINES AND TWEETS, AND PUNDITS.
Mixed messages coming from Trump doctors sets a low bar for GOP voting confidence
Trump is reportedly furious at White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows following his less-than-stellar address to the nation about his boss’ health. The difference of opinion occurred minutes after the president’s team of doctors gave a rosy interpretation of their patient’s road to recovery. The conflicting information was public fodder for the remainder of the day Saturday with numerous television news channels digging in an attempt at reaching some sort of reality, but it didn’t seem to help matters for the Republicans.
“The president’s vitals over the last 24 hours were very concerning, and the next 48 hours will be critical in terms of his care,” Meadows told reporters Saturday, asking not to be mentioned by name. “We’re still not on a clear path to a full recovery.”
Trump hurriedly responded with his own video claiming he was “feeling well!”…
‘Don’t tell anyone’: Trump tried to hide positive COVID-19 tests spreading through the White House
Trump coronavirus positive rocks stock markets
* U.S. jobs growth slows more than expected in September
* Airlines tumble as stimulus deal remains elusive, LAYOFF 32, 000 EMPLOYEES .
* Futures off: Dow 1.41%, S&P 1.42%, Nasdaq 2.01%
At 8:36 a.m. ET, Dow e-minis were down 390 points, or 1.41%, S&P 500 e-minis were down 47.75 points, or 1.42%, and Nasdaq 100 e-minis were down 233 points, or 2.01%.
That 390 point DROP came AFTER THIS ONE!!
Dow drops 525 points, tech slides as DOJ eyes crackdown on censorship
The DOJ is reviewing actions against big tech
U.S. equity markets took a sharp turn lower in the final hour of trading with technology and energy shares pacing the declines.
The Nasdaq Composite lost 3% as Google Inc. and Facebook Inc. were among the hardest hit after President Trump met with officials from the Department of Justice and Attorneys General to discuss the efforts to protect Americans from social media abuse and to combat censorship of lawful speech online.
The Dow Jones Industrial Average fell 525 points, or nearly 2%, with Chevron Corp. and Microsoft Corp. coming under pressure.
The S&P 500, meanwhile, slipped 2.37%.
‘He’s very sick’: Ex-Trump official says president needs to drop out and deal with his COVID-19 ‘brain fog and lung damage’
Former White House Communications Director Anthony Scaramucci was asked Sunday morning whether or not he thought President Donald J. Trump would develop a different level of hubris, humility and compassion for the more than 200,000 people who have died from COVID-19 now that he has become infected himself.
“Okay, so the short answer is NO, Alex, and the longer answer is they haven’t even changed the optional mask protocol at the White House, so, no,” he said. “It’s not in his personality, but I think he’s very sick…those doctors are now part of the Trump reality distortion field. They’re either saying that stuff to comfort him, or they’re saying that stuff because he’s compelling them to say it, and the truth of the matter is he’s very sick. He’s not going to make it to the debate. Anyone who looks at this situation knows that, so it will be interesting as to what the campaign will do as a contingency plan given the fact the president is not going to make the debate next week.”
Scaramucci added, “Not only is he incapable of learning from it, he’s incapable of admitting a mistake and he’s incapable of apologizing. I think he apologized once and that was to the Pocahontas family for comparing Elizabeth Warren to Pocahontas. He’s not a guy to apologize to anybody.”
In recent days, Scaramucci has vocally called for Trump to drop out of his reelection campaign and resign from office.
“He still may be forced to drop out due to his health. We have no idea what’s going on with the brain fog or the lung damage as a result of COVID-19,” Scaramucci said. “If he really loved the country, he would drop out. He’s not physically or mentally capable of being the president anymore, and he would do that. But if he’s not going to do that and he gets some level of recovery in his mid-70’s suffering from COVID-19 with all the comorbidities, I hope the people give a landslide election to Joe Biden and we can get rid of him overall as president.”
He added, “I want him to get well, but I want him to go to Mar-a-Lago where he’s better suited to be a greeter at Mar-a-Lago than he is the President of the United States….
Brian Kilmeade speculates that if Trump easily overcomes his covid infection, “doesn’t that also send a message that you could say whatever you want in stats & graphs but I give you an example of somebody who’s in that danger age of 74 who is out there, gets it, and beats it?”
That’s exactly why I don’t buy it.
TRUMP WENT TO BEDMINSTER AND EXPOSED STAFF AND FUNDRAISER ATTENDEES WHEN HE ALREADY KNEW HE HAD COVID!?! WHEN HE WAS ALREADY SYMPTOMATIC AND RECEIVING TREATMENT!
Trump Campaign Sends Out Email Attacking ‘Lyin’ Obama’, as Former President Wishes Trump Well. SOURCE .
This is why I can’t muster much sympathy for Trump. He attacked HRC for having pneumonia, McCain for being captured in Vietnam & Biden’s mental fitness etc. He has been holding super spreader events for months practically daring COVID to infect him!
I am suspicious of the announcement.
First, he’s a con man. Next, he’s in trouble: the debate was a fiasco, Putin’s bounties, RBG vs Handmaid, trying to prepare for a debate (as if), refusing to declare an emergency for CA fires, lack of funds for TV ads, NY AG. He always lies.
Donald Trump is faking COVID-19 & his admittance to Walter Reed. It’s all part of his plan to flee his legal problems & seek legal asylum in Russia. Change my mind.
I was thinking he could be using Covid to get a sympathy vote. Just crossed my mind a couple of hours ago. He’s desperate, so that’s the first thing I thought of. Can’t put anything aside with a pathological staff, GOP and president.
It also gets him out the debates so he won’t get his butt kicked again. Gives him an excuse when the election doesn’t go his way, he couldn’t campaign for two weeks. Maybe even laying ground work to postpone the election. Or maybe he is going for the sympathy vote. Who knows…
Anything is possible with this guy. It’s terrible we can’t just take this at face value
They’ve lied about virtually *everything* from the very first day of the administration. You think they’re not going to lie about *this*?
I’ve never seen a doctor report on Donald Trump’s health whom I thought was credible. Remember, one doc said Donald Trump was in better health than ANY president, ever. Really?
Just a reminder that we’ve never been given an accurate picture of Donald Trump’s health.
Don’t believe anything they say. Who knows ?
Could be a big scam
or trump may be on his death bed
that’s how much credibility they have. Guess we will just see what happens
***MUCH IN-FIGHTING IN THE ABOVE THREAD.***
McMaster, Mostly Silent Until Now, Says Trump Is ‘Aiding and Abetting Putin’s Efforts’
“This sustained campaign of disruption, disinformation, and denial, is aided by any leader who doesn’t acknowledge it,” President Trump’s former national security adviser said.
The retired Lt. Gen. H.R. McMaster became the latest of President Trump’s former aides on Thursday to declare that the president was aiding Russia’s disinformation campaign by failing to acknowledge how President Vladimir V. Putin was trying to manipulate American voters.
“He is aiding and abetting Putin’s efforts by not being direct about this,” Mr. McMaster, a former national security adviser who is now a fellow at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University, said in an interview on MSNBC. “This sustained campaign of disruption, disinformation and denial is aided by any leader who doesn’t acknowledge it.”
Initially the stocks fell 390 points, which IS QUITE BAD, but then THIS:
Stocks fall following Trump’s positive virus test, but close off the worst levels on stimulus hopes
The Trump tweet initially knocked down Dow futures more than 500 points in overnight trading.
THEN THERE’S THIS-
New evidence supports ‘seemingly crazed idea’ that dollar WILL crash: Economist Stephen Roach
Former Morgan Stanley Asia chairman Stephen Roach lists reasons why the dollar WILL plunge next year, and warns odds of a double-dip recession are growing.
Forbes adds it up: Trump has $1.1 billion in debt
Forbes says President Donald Trump is a billionaire, but he has more than a billion dollars in debt.
The New York Times Sunday evening dropped a bombshell investigation into Trump’s taxes, after having obtained twenty years of his returns. The Times reported Trump is $421 million in debt to an unknown entity.
(One former top Mueller team attorney just strongly suggested that entity is Russia.)
Now, Forbes senior editor Dan Alexander, whose beat is covering Trump, reveals the President of the United States has $1.13 billion in debt. That’s billion with a “b.”
Overall, he puts Trump’s net worth at $2.5 billion, saying his businesses are “worth an estimated $3.66 billion before debt.”
Alexander clearly knows what he’s talking about, and clearly knows all of Trump’s real estate assets.
The list of debt on his assets seems staggering.
“A big chunk of Trump’s liabilities is concentrated in 1290 Avenue of the Americas in New York City and 555 California Street in San Francisco, the two skyscrapers he owns in conjunction with Vornado,” Alexander reports, adding that Trump’s share of the debt for those two buildings is $448 million.
“The president owes hundreds of millions more on other Manhattan buildings, as documented in SEC filings and property records. At Trump Tower, he has a $100 million loan. At 40 Wall Street, he owes $139 million. At Trump Plaza, $13 million. At Trump International Hotel & Tower, $6.5 million. At Trump Park Avenue, an estimated $10 million. That’s another $268 million, bringing the tally to $716 million.”
That’s just an excerpt from the tally.
And as already reported, THIS-
President Donald Trump declines to commit to peaceful transfer of power: ‘There won’t be a transfer’
“Well, we’re going to have to see what happens,” the president said.
Asked if he will leave the White House peacefully, if he loses the election, Trump responded, “Well, we’re going to have to see what happens. You know that.”
[MY NOTES: Trump is an evil, lying Traitor. We do NOT “have to wait and see” IF Trump will abide BY THE CONSTITUTION! THIS is how a DEPOT AND DICTATOR talks and acts!!]
Through all this we need to remember-
TWO MORE THINGS THEN CLOSING…
A OFFICIAL MEDICAL STATEMENT FROM DOCTORS:
LIE: We don’t know much about coronavirus. This is one of the media’s favorite lies. It is much scarier if it is unknown. We know that coronavirus is a zoonotic disease. In other words, it’s natural hosts are birds and animals as opposed to humans. We vaccinate domestic animals for them. We know that four forms cause colds every year. We know it mutates and evolves just like the flu. We know it sometimes becomes deadly as it has in SARS and MERS. We have done medical studies on coronavirus as a coexisting illness in patients in the past.
LIE: COVID-19 is more infectious than influenza. This is one of two lies most often quoted by the millions who call national radio programs or post on social media. It is amazing how many people with absolutely no medical training somehow feel qualified to comment on this disease. Now, we want to be more fair than the national media so we are obligated to report there will never be a study where 1,000 people eat after people with the flu and 1,000 others eat after people with COVID-19 to see which one is more infectious. But the evidence is overwhelming. COVID-19 was first identified late December/early January. A little over three and a half months in, we have slightly over 2 million confirmed cases globally. By comparison, according to the National Center for Biotechnology Information (Google Influenza Update- NCBI), influenza is responsible for up to a billion infections annually. Flu season is basically from the start of October until April. At the flu’s three and a half month mark, that works out to 583 million cases globally. Even accounting for the fact COVID-19 is underreported that is a HUGE difference.
However, there is even further evidence influenza is more infectious. Drawing from our own (meaning everyone reading this) experiences, when influenza gets started in a daycare or elementary school, they often have to be closed for a short time because otherwise everyone gets it. All the kids, workers, teachers, and parents. The most students in one class we could remember was 23 of 25 out at the same time with the flu. Certainly, daycare classes in both Tuscaloosa and Jefferson counties have been closed this year. Contrast that to what you know about coronavirus. The NBA tested hundreds of players, staff, and media to come up with 14 cases. The vast majority did not contract the virus at all. The most extreme case in terms of possible COVID-19 exposure we could find was the aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt. If you have never toured a military ship, space is at a premium. Very tight and crowded conditions. Secondary to this, hundreds of crew would become infected. So 4,800 men and women were exposed to multiple individuals with the virus several times a day, day after day. Despite that constant exposure, 4,140 (or over 86%) of those sailors would never even contract the disease.
To address the possible rebuttals, it is absolutely true we don’t know the true number of COVID-19 cases. It doesn’t make the average person under 60 sick so we will never account for all of those. However, it doesn’t even infect the average person with a healthy immune system who comes in contact with it, so the number can only be so high. It is true that testing has not been available everywhere the entire three and a half months but we are making up for that by testing generously now. Locally, DCH had tested 3,105 by April 17, 2,958 of which were negative.
LIE: COVID-19 is more dangerous than influenza.
The second lie of the medically uninformed. Even among those who do contract COVID-19, most under 60, including virtually everyone under 21, will never know they had it. On the USS Theodore Roosevelt, 60% were asymptomatic [MY NOTES: THAT MEANS “NO SYMPTOMS/THEY DIDN’T FEEL SICK AT ALL”]. Of the 2 million people who have tested positive for COVID-19 globally, most have had mild to no symptoms. By the three and half month mark of flu season, the flu had resulted in over 2 million severe cases requiring hospitalization. Influenza results in 290,000 to 670,000 deaths annually. COVID-19 deaths will be discussed below.
How does a virus that killed 46,438 globally in three months (and which about 96% of those 75 to 84, and 90% of those 85 and older survive) “suddenly kill” 143,984 in the next three weeks, according the same worldometers.info? [MY NOTES: Because the whole thing is a “house-of-cards” LIES. They LIE for 2 reasons: 1) they get more sympathy if it’s “The Dreaded COVID-19” than if it’s the COMMON Flu, 2) they get more $$$ if it’s “The Dreaded COVID-19” than if it’s the COMMON Flu. The CDC finally admitted that 94% of the “Coronavirus deaths” were NOT from Coronavirus!]
A OFFICIAL MEDICAL STATEMENT FROM EPIDEMIOLOGISTS.
Epidemiologist: Coronavirus could be ‘exterminated’ if lockdowns were lifted
Going outdoors is what stops every respiratory disease’
A veteran scholar of epidemiology has warned that the ongoing lockdowns throughout the United States and the rest of the world are almost certainly just prolonging the coronavirus outbreak rather than doing anything to truly mitigate it.
Knut Wittkowski, previously the longtime head of the Department of Biostatistics, Epidemiology, and Research Design at the Rockefeller University in New York City, said in an interview with the Press and the Public Project that the coronavirus could be “exterminated” if we permitted most people to lead normal lives and sheltered the most vulnerable parts of society until the danger had passed.
“[W]hat people are trying to do is flatten the curve. I don’t really know why. But, what happens is if you flatten the curve, you also prolong, to widen it, and it takes more time. And I don’t see a good reason for a respiratory disease to stay in the population longer than necessary,” he said.
“With all respiratory diseases, the only thing that stops the disease is herd immunity. About 80% of the people need to have had contact with the virus, and the majority of them won’t even have recognized that they were infected, or they had very, very mild symptoms, especially if they are children. So, it’s very important to keep the schools open and kids mingling to spread the virus to get herd immunity as fast as possible, and then the elderly people, who should be separated, and the nursing homes should be closed during that time, can come back and meet their children and grandchildren after about 4 weeks when the virus has been exterminated,” he added.
Wittkowski argued that the standard cycle of respiratory diseases is a two-week outbreak, including a peak, after which “it’s gone.” He pointed out that even in a regime of “social distancing,” the virus will still find ways to spread, just more slowly:
You cannot stop the spread of a respiratory disease within a family, and you cannot stop it from spreading with neighbors, with people who are delivering, who are physicians—anybody. People are social, and even in times of social distancing, they have contacts, and any of those contacts could spread the disease. It will go slowly, and so it will not build up herd immunity, but it will happen. And it will go on forever unless we let it go.
Asked about Anthony Fauci, the White House medical expert who for weeks has been predicting significant numbers of COVID-19 deaths in America as well as major ongoing disruptions to daily life possibly for years, Wittkowski replied: “Well, I’m not paid by the government, so I’m entitled to actually do science.”
I was at the Rockefeller University for 20 years, Head of the Department of Biostatistics Epidemiology and Research Design, and before that, I worked for 15 years with Klaus Dietz, one of the leading epidemiologists in the world in the German town of Tubingen in the Eberhard Karls University.
As with every respiratory disease, we should protect the elderly and fragile because when they get pneumonia, they have a high risk of dying of the pneumonia. So that is one of the key issues that we should keep in mind. On the other hand, children do very well with these diseases. They’re evolutionarily designed to be exposed to all sorts of viruses during their lifetime, and so they should keep going to school and infecting each other. Then, that contributes to herd immunity, which means after about four weeks at the most, the elderly people could start joining their family because then the virus would have been extinguished.
With all respiratory diseases, the only thing that stops the disease is herd immunity. About 80% of the people need to have had contact with the virus, and the majority of them won’t even have recognized that they were infected, or they had very, very mild symptoms, especially if they are children. So, it’s very important to keep the schools open and kids mingling to spread the virus to get herd immunity as fast as possible, and then the elderly people, who should be separated, and the nursing homes should be closed during that time, can come back and meet their children and grandchildren after about 4 weeks when the virus has been exterminated.
…what people are trying to do is flatten the curve. I don’t really know why. But, what happens is if you flatten the curve, you also prolong, to widen it, and it takes more time. And I don’t see a good reason for a respiratory disease to stay in the population longer than necessary.
We had two other SARS viruses before, Or, coronaviruses. It’s not the first coronavirus that comes out, and it won’t be the last. And for all respiratory diseases, we have the same type of an epidemic. If you leave it alone, it comes for two weeks, it peaks, and it goes for two weeks and it’s gone.
There are no more new cases in China and in South Korea. The number of new cases in Europe is already beginning to decline. The virus came later to the US, so here we see a bit of an incline, maybe, and leveling off within the next couple of days. And if we see that the cases are not increasing dramatically, that means that the number of new infections has already declined substantially and peaked about a week ago.
The epidemic has ended there, yes. Because otherwise, we would see people emerging – and even in China, it’s today very difficult to keep information under the hood. If there were lots of cases in hospitals, if the hospitals that they built, the temporary hospitals, were still full, we would hear that. This could not be suppressed.
…I’m not paid by the government, so I’m entitled to actually do science. If the government, if there had been no intervention, the epidemic would have been over, like every other respiratory disease epidemic.
We have, right now, let’s take realistic numbers in the United Sates: we have about 25,000 cases every day, that is probably the upper limit – make it 30,000 – who knows? But let’s talk about 25,000. 2% of them will actually have symptoms – that is 500 cases a day. Maybe a third or a fifth – let’s say half of them – will need to be hospitalized. That’s 250 patients a day. If they have been hospitalized for about 10 days, that means that we will have – our hospital system will have to deal with 2,500 patients every day for a certain period of time – that could be 3 or 4 weeks, and then the number will dramatically decrease again and the whole epidemic will be over.
[MY NOTES: Again, this was LONG. But for us to really understand WHAT we are up against, and to decipher truth from fiction we had to have a deep, broad, and solid bedrock of reliable, verifiable facts and evidence on which to base it. Now for my conclusion.]
Trump is in trouble. Even BEFORE/WITHOUT the coronavirus…Trump was and IS in trouble. He, his family, and cohorts are in deep legal trouble. They are also in deep financial trouble. Trump got smeared in the first debate against Biden. A mere three days later he’s “sick”. I am NOT alone in thinking he is once again lying, trying to scam and pull a con so as to escape justice, save face, and skip town. IF that is not the correct scenario the other one before us is worse. Trump has already repeatedly said he will NOT commit to a peaceful transfer of power. AND on live tv during the first debate Trump called upon Fascists, White Supremacists, and other Alt-Right to conduct civil war level violence should he lose. Neither of these is acceptable. NOT even a rabid Far-Left, Big-Government Marxist-Socialist like FDR thought of doing this!! NOR did Clinton. NOR did Obama. What Trump is threatening in the latter scenario smacks of a despot and dictator! This is the behaviour of a TRAITOR. Now, you can have your dinner, watch the evening news, check out the late shows, and laugh it off like nothing is happening…it wasn’t raining when Noah built the Ark.
-Rev. Larry Wallenmeyer.